Nationalized Health Care: Truth or Consequences
Nov 9th, 2008 |
A counter documentary to Michael Moore’s SICKO illustrating the deficiencies of nationalized health care.
Duration : 0:8:14
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macarajunia said:
It is every private …
It is every private insurance companies fiduciary responsibly to “MAXIMIZE PROFITS FOR THEIR SHAREHOLDERS” and that’s the bottom line! That concept is immoral
teek55 said:
I figure we can …
I figure we can insure every US citizen with tax incentives and a “limited defined benefit plan” for as little as $15 to $20 per week! Wont be the same type of insurance at $250 per month . Yet it would be good for 75% of the time. It will serve as a bridge plan until the public forms of insurance kick in such as Medicaid or other forms of public assistance we have now.
teek55 said:
Not really!
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Not really!
Remember , the rule of insurance is to provide coverages for an “unforeseen” illness. Not being covered, then waiting till you get sick to by insurance will not work.
Many of these plans will cover you for many health conditions after a defined period of time. Better to have this than nothing at all !
ben5017 said:
We already pay the …
We already pay the hospitals public money in the forms of grants, bonds, welfare, medicare, etc … why is it that the hospitals want to be capitalist when it comes to taking profits, but when it comes to free money they want to act socailist?
The fact is America is paying enough in taxes to the hospitals for nationalized healthcare.
Hospitals need to get off the public tit if they want to be capitalist, or be nationalized.
Our midical care is not capitalistic!
Johnson154 said:
Lowering taxes may …
Lowering taxes may HELP solve healthcare and insurance, but then everything else is under-funded. How would that help us in the long run???
Johnson154 said:
We are already …
We are already insuring the old and poor/unhealthy using medicare and medicaid. Why not get the rest of us in there?
Ya know, the gov’t does do many things very well. I don’t know why everybody says the gov’t is the crappiest business in the world. If so, why are we such a spoiled nation?
Johnson154 said:
I know its …
I know its expensive. I work for Team Nash, a healthcare broker’s office. We are a max rated group, so I got stiffed by all my coworkers buggin out on prescriptions. Luckily, I don’t pay my premium. ER takes care of 100% of the single premium. Oh yeah, and I am with SelectHealth already
Johnson154 said:
You have to be …
You have to be healthy though. Not everybody can get those.
mikethetiger said:
Karahum,
Spot on …
Karahum,
Spot on and one of the best comments I’ve ever seen on youtube.
teek55 said:
Mini Medical plans …
Mini Medical plans are available to the uninsured for $83 per month per person. With tax incentives it would cost less than two packs of smoke a week!
Come on America ! Lets get smart on this and not negative.
Mr Fix it for President.
teek55 said:
How is this …
How is this possible? by collecting tax dollars from those who do not think they need to be covered now as the lady in this video had chosen to do, we can insure the 45% of population who asks for help when they need it yet banked on the notion that they would not need insurance until they actually do.
Universal Coverage term is a good thing.
Single payer system is not such a good thing , yet could work if we all come together on this topic.
teek55 said:
The feds charge a …
The feds charge a tax for a base line of health care. Those who have jobs can buy up to the type of plan they have now for less than they are paying presently.
teek55 said:
Let us also …
Let us also understand the difference between the terms Universal Coverage (every citizen most be covered by other a self pay of a state funded program) vs the fear tactic of replacing the term Universal Covers with A Single Payer system)
We could have both systems in play at the same time.
Try to think of a health care system that works like the Educational Tax vouchers which many states are adapting.
teek55 said:
The advance sage of …
The advance sage of cancer in this video suggests that this person was not under a doctors care. While on long term travel, she takes ill and has no TRAVEL MEDICAL insurance which was available to her. To make this assertion that this is a good reason not to support Universal Medical Coverage for US citizens was shallow in deed !
teek55 said:
Twisting the Truth. …
Twisting the Truth. Shame on NAHU for taking this position with this unconvincing video of a US citizen who was traveling overseas who CHOSE not to fly back to the USA to seek treatment for her cancer. This was an unfortunate situation , yet avoidable.
Karmahum said:
Universal Health …
Universal Health Care: The compassion of the IRS and the efficiency of the DMV.
Karmahum said:
Johnson154…if you …
Johnson154…if you are paying $350 per month for a single healthcare plan and are 20 years old and you live in Utah then you are getting screwed and you are not very smart. In about ten minutes I could get a rate of half that amount. Got to the website of SelectHealth or Altius and apply. Easy.
protoballer99 said:
Canada has mediocre …
Canada has mediocre health care at best, as it is socialized and yet they only have a tenth of the population that we do. Socialized medicine will never work in this country. If we had real tort reform (so Dr.’s and hospitals didn’t have such exhorbitant malpractice insurance premiums) and stopped treating illegals and people who opted to pay for luxury items before they’d ever opt to pay for health insurance premiums, maybe we wouldn’t be gouged so badly at hospitals and when we have tests.
2manygitars said:
Why would the …
Why would the company’s, that you say are greedy, want to stay in business if they weren’t going to make money? You think a doctor who has gone to school for 8 years or more should get the same pay or less pay than Joe the plumber? Move to Russia and let me know how it’s worked out for them.
narkotic13 said:
by the way, if the …
by the way, if the govt lowered taxes we would all be able to pay for OUR OWN healthcare. you socialists have an amazing ability to actually have faith in govt institutions which have proven to never be as effective as privatized business. i welcome your disagreement, but history speaks for itself.
narkotic13 said:
the “free” …
the “free” healthcare is paid for with our taxes- called CHIP, Medicaid, Medicare and most urban counties have free clinics and hospitals.if you ever went to one you would know why nationalized healthcare is a BAD idea.you wait, and wait, and wait, and wait some more all the while someone who doesn’t pay a dime in taxes gets treated before you. patient care should be between a doctor and a patient.look at japan’s system.they mandate age limits on what age is acceptable to be treated.isthatfair?
narkotic13 said:
ben5017-
dude, do …
ben5017-
dude, do you have brain or did you just comment on this video without actually watching it. medical co’s are in biz to make a profit. whats wrong with that? sure they shouldn’t gouge consumers but why in the world would you want to nationalize healthcare and give control to the govt which is the most mismanaged business out there. your costs would go up and your care would get worse. nationalization is a nice term for socialism. by the way, we already have free (taxpayer)healthcare
Johnson154 said:
Heck, I could go …
Heck, I could go find one (thousands, really)person that had a terrible experience with our multi-payer healthcare system and do an eight minute documentary about their horrible ordeal. I could relay the “facts?” about how I pay $350/month for coverage as a healthy 20 yr. old in one of the cheapest healthcare states in the US (UT). But all of that doesn’t mean that we should switch to Universal Healthcare. Likewise, this documentary does nothing to sway me. Better luck next time.
P.S. g1 ben
ben5017 said:
Fact is the young …
Fact is the young adult generation is paying taxes so the retired, poor, children, etc can have healthcare while they are struggling and going bankrupt paying for it.
Fact is the working class is getting screwed when it comes to medicine … what good is all of the technology if you cannot afford it of if your coverage does not cover it?
The real truth is the medical corporations need to be nationalized for their sheer greed … were hospitals not owned by the counties some years ago?